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VIDEOS => Technique Boards => Tutorials & Tips => Strikes => Topic started by: Keeper on July 05, 2011, 11:20:49 PM
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If u know how to control the motion of the chucks and how to use your strength, even though the chain is long (the one I use in this clip is about 10 inches), it won't hit back and hurt yourself. Also, if u know how to fully use the momentum, the triple strikes will work pretty good as combat application.
As my opinion, Nunckucks are weapons, not showing tools, so the training should focus on the real combat situations instead of fancy movements.（just personal opinion though :-) ）
Practice by me, Keeper 网纹之吻, at Ross Point Camp, Idaho.
http://youtu.be/Tu1ZzxUB0PY (http://youtu.be/Tu1ZzxUB0PY)
This is my first post, I am not sure wether the video will successfully post or not. If not, please check this link and watch it on the youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu1ZzxUB0PY
Thanks
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good job :chuck: ,,,*_^ ,, your welcome bro
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I agree with what you say about using nunchaku as a weapon. However, I'd like to point out that to use it more effectively as a weapon, you should hold the stick near the bottom(the end of the stick that isn't connected to the chain) for maximum range and power. Also, you should use your hips as you strike for more power as well. Take a look at this video, and check out the rest of this guy's videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFKPjw1sew
He has a set of like 10 different weapons DVDs with instruction on various kobudo weapons including the bo, tonfa, sai, and a bunch of others that I can't recall at the moment. He's one of the few real nunchaku instructors out there that doesn't try to teach you flashy stuff. There are some other instructors out there that seem to be interested in teaching combat application, but they still show a lot of flashy, non-practical stuff. I don't really like or agree with Lee Barden much, but there is one thing he says that I do agree with very much: that you need to hold the nunchaku handle as close to the bottom as possible for use as a weapon. It makes a lot of sense. You might not have quite as much control, but you'll get greater range and power. Think about it like swinging a baseball bat. If you choke up, it feels lighter, and it's more easily controllable, but you don't have as much power in your swing either because you're holding it closer to the middle.
Here's the video where he mentions this, in case you're interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WgQmQGJJUs
Anyway, nice video
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I agree with what you say about using nunchaku as a weapon. However, I'd like to point out that to use it more effectively as a weapon, you should hold the stick near the bottom(the end of the stick that isn't connected to the chain) for maximum range and power. Also, you should use your hips as you strike for more power as well. Take a look at this video, and check out the rest of this guy's videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFKPjw1sew
He has a set of like 10 different weapons DVDs with instruction on various kobudo weapons including the bo, tonfa, sai, and a bunch of others that I can't recall at the moment. He's one of the few real nunchaku instructors out there that doesn't try to teach you flashy stuff. There are some other instructors out there that seem to be interested in teaching combat application, but they still show a lot of flashy, non-practical stuff. I don't really like or agree with Lee Barden much, but there is one thing he says that I do agree with very much: that you need to hold the nunchaku handle as close to the bottom as possible for use as a weapon. It makes a lot of sense. You might not have quite as much control, but you'll get greater range and power. Think about it like swinging a baseball bat. If you choke up, it feels lighter, and it's more easily controllable, but you don't have as much power in your swing either because you're holding it closer to the middle.
Here's the video where he mentions this, in case you're interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WgQmQGJJUs
Anyway, nice video
First of all, thanx for ur common~ :lol:
Secondly, there is a misunderstanding for the holding. I explained in the video that cuz the nunchucks I use is rubber one, if I hold in the middle it will decrease the actual output strength. But since it's Chinese....so u can't get it..... :um: I 100% agree that by using it as weapon, u won't hold at the top. But as my preference, I prefer hold it in the middle instead of bottom cuz that way u can control the nunchucks better than u holding on the bottom. For the range, I think using footwork can make up for that. But again, it's a personal preference.
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I agree with what you say about using nunchaku as a weapon. However, I'd like to point out that to use it more effectively as a weapon, you should hold the stick near the bottom(the end of the stick that isn't connected to the chain) for maximum range and power. Also, you should use your hips as you strike for more power as well. Take a look at this video, and check out the rest of this guy's videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFKPjw1sew
He has a set of like 10 different weapons DVDs with instruction on various kobudo weapons including the bo, tonfa, sai, and a bunch of others that I can't recall at the moment. He's one of the few real nunchaku instructors out there that doesn't try to teach you flashy stuff. There are some other instructors out there that seem to be interested in teaching combat application, but they still show a lot of flashy, non-practical stuff. I don't really like or agree with Lee Barden much, but there is one thing he says that I do agree with very much: that you need to hold the nunchaku handle as close to the bottom as possible for use as a weapon. It makes a lot of sense. You might not have quite as much control, but you'll get greater range and power. Think about it like swinging a baseball bat. If you choke up, it feels lighter, and it's more easily controllable, but you don't have as much power in your swing either because you're holding it closer to the middle.
Here's the video where he mentions this, in case you're interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WgQmQGJJUs
Anyway, nice video
Also, check this out~ He is the true master for triple strikes combat applications in China! Most things I learned is from his video. These techniques is not only cool looking but most importantly really useful! They are truly combat applications
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avubXeQYo4Q&feature=related
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I like doing "fancy movements" with nunchucks, but I guess hitting a tree is cool too...
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Also, check this out~ He is the true master for triple strikes combat applications in China! Most things I learned is from his video. These techniques is not only cool looking but most importantly really useful! They are truly combat applications
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avubXeQYo4Q&feature=related
Oooh, that was a nice video. He looks pretty stiff from the waist down, though. One thing that Nishuichi(I think that's how it's spelled, the guy in the first video I posted) says about using nunchaku for self defense that makes a lot of sense to me is that when striking you should use your hips to turn your body as you strike to increase the power of the strike. That's not something I see many people doing at all, and I think it's something that should be emphasized more.
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good video , keep it up bro :)
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nunchaku was a farmer "tool" from 2 the history of it, before it was used as a "weapon".
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welcome to the forum! and please try to search all the 'combat' application of nunchaku here, they all end up in flames. I'll review it and make a rule for this or confine it in a certain board when i am free.
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please try to search all the 'combat' application of nunchaku here, they all end up in flames
thats a bit strange for a nunchaku forum. most people think nunchaku its just for show but it's one of the most effective and quickest weapons you can get. all it takes is one hit and it will injure someone enough to stop them whereas most other weapons one hit is not enough. for example kali sticks you will have to hit someone a lot to stop them, one hit isn't powerful enough. but one hit with the nunchaku will easily break any bone in the body
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most people think nunchaku its just for show but it's one of the most effective and quickest weapons you can get.
I'm sorry to correct this bro :sorry: , but I think its the opposite based on my experiences.. most people think its the most effective and quickest weapons you can get. very few can arrive thinking in using it for a show. but anyways, I'll humbly just make a board for this and put a very big disclaimer "we are not responsible stuffs.." take note that there are childrens here whose studying(even my younger relatives) and I'm sure gonna get beat up by their parents with this most effective and quickest weapons the world has ever did to history of mankind pluto galaxy - that is, if ever they get the idea of effectively use it for fighting their enemies.
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thats a bit strange for a nunchaku forum. most people think nunchaku its just for show but it's one of the most effective and quickest weapons you can get.
FNF is about trying to show that there is an amazing art behind nunchaku. It's a totally different approach than using it to train on how to hurt others. In California, using a nunchaku is a felony - it's the same penalty as a sawed off shotgun... so unless shotguns are seen as just for show, your statement is very incorrect. Nunchaku is illegal in many places because it is widely known as a destructive tool. You have more freedom walking around with a sword. We're trying to set free from that image and showcase the art of spinning.
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I agree with you, I think the nunchaku itself is a fairly efficient weapon if used properly and is known as taking the right way. in my country is illegal to use nunchaku. But to practice with little trouble with the police, I adopt the freestyle nunchaku, this is very appealing and people love it, but they think the freestyle is the most lethal, I do not think so ... so have more power and control just enough to presisamente and short techniques, such as nunchaku-do, or form
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If you don't understand the basic fundamentals of the Weapon called Nunchaku, then you are just a juggler. Don't call them Nunchucks, call them juggling stix (with a long chain) or Aerobix Stix, cause, they're not Nunchaku. My Instructor, (when he was sane) told me no one will EVER respect you as a Master with the "Nunchaku" if you're not a, or don't understand the Martial Artist. If you are happy with Juggling then great, don't say you are working a weapon and try to benefit from the Mystique of the "NUNCHAKU". With that said here are some combat applications:
# 1 http://youtu.be/kMMCki2V3ZU
# 2 http://youtu.be/dVkbdKTNzdc
# 3 http://youtu.be/BjGfyZd7JWU
PS if you are holding 10" chains at the neck, your reach is shorter or the same as Prochux.
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As Bruce Lee said, it's just a name and not to fuss over it. When people fuss over names, it's less about the art and more about ego stroking.
I think having a martial background will help *a lot* with nunchaku. The body movement and power learned from the fundamentals are excellent. If you're going for weaponry, I would definitely pick up prochucks. They are light weight, speedy and pack a deadly whallop.
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Not quite agreeing with the points raised here..
not getting respect from the "martial arts" community, even if you do create a viable and effective form of fighting with nunchaku. DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!
No kind of self respecting martial artist should thinks he has to seek the acceptance of his peers. if it works for you, DO IT!
i now use chucks that are just over "14 with a 3" chain. and weigh about 600g, Are they nunchucks or juggling sticks?
im confused, i didn't realize that there was a STANDARD MODEL for chucks :doh
and i can swing my chucks, holding from the bottom, so fast that you cant even see it. i can do 3 full powered strikes per second.
im quite sure that they have a lot more reach than pros, ( i have some and have experimented)
none of this was done through any traditional or formalized training. and i don't regret any of it.
but hey, this is my opinion, feel free to pick it apart.
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If you don't understand the basic fundamentals of the Weapon called Nunchaku, then you are just a juggler. Don't call them Nunchucks, call them juggling stix (with a long chain) or Aerobix Stix, cause, they're not Nunchaku. If you are happy with Juggling then great, don't say you are working a weapon and try to benefit from the Mystique of the "NUNCHAKU".
Now here is something Lee and I can agree on... But of course I caught hell for stating any similarity between this and baton twirling... which freestyle basically is; glorified baton twirling. I would argue that they're still nunchaku you're using though, whether you do freestyle or learn real combat application. I mean, if you twirl rifles for fun(and yes some do this), the rifle doesn't cease to be a rifle. You're just not using it as a rifle at that point, just like the people doing freestyle aren't really using the nunchaku as nunchaku. They're using them as batons for twirling.
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I know i havnt posted anything on the forum in a while but this seems like a good place to getstarted again. All ego aside in my personal opinion i think that combat application truly depends on the person. There are only a few things that will remain the same from person to person and the main one being lines of attack. I have found this to be universal from every style i have taken, mainly because its the one thing that doesnt change from person to person. Understand the way your body moves and the rest will fall into place. Of course if you put two people in a fight with nunchaku who are the same weigt heigt and build ext. The one wjo has practiced more will probably win. To add to the point royce gracie understood how the body works bettr then the fighters he fougt at the early ufc's so he won untill there knowledge grew.
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Now here is something Lee and I can agree on... But of course I caught hell for stating any similarity between this and baton twirling... which freestyle basically is; glorified baton twirling. I would argue that they're still nunchaku you're using though, whether you do freestyle or learn real combat application. I mean, if you twirl rifles for fun(and yes some do this), the rifle doesn't cease to be a rifle. You're just not using it as a rifle at that point, just like the people doing freestyle aren't really using the nunchaku as nunchaku. They're using them as batons for twirling.
im thinking you don't have a very deep understanding of nunchaku..
combat application and freestyle can be interchangeable, the mechanics for combat can be learned through freestyle and vice versa..
you mention baton twirling a hell of a lot, and im starting to think that you just cant do anything with the chucks, and the style bashing is a form of self deprecation.
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i mean, alot of my combat techniques have arisen from adapted freestyle techniques, without freestyle i wouldnt be anywhere near as good at combat,
and i wouldn't have anywhere near the level of understanding of nunchaku that i have now.
Magus,,, perhaps post a video of your uber pure combat skills to show me the error of my ways?
maybe i could take what you're saying more seriously if you could show me that you have even the faintest idea what you're talking about...
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Magus,,, perhaps post a video of your uber pure combat skills to show me the error of my ways?
maybe i could take what you're saying more seriously if you could show me that you have even the faintest idea what you're talking about...
I would call troll here, but I'm pretty sure he's serious.. :roll:
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I'd have to agree with matt everything is interchangeable here i mean i can fire a gun or swing a baseball bat as well doesn't say i can be effective with it
only when you practice and get a understanding of how the object works and how it reacts to the environment you can become more effective with it
in my personal opinion it's kinda useless to debate wether it's a good weapon or not since these day's when you get into a fight Ur risking being bombed by some
b-52's or something like that :ninja:
in any case discussing the differences is useless rather discus what you have learned and how it can help other people improve their own level in the arts they like to practice
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only when you practice and get a understanding of how the object works and how it reacts to the environment you can become more effective with it
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Now here is something Lee and I can agree on... But of course I caught hell for stating any similarity between this and baton twirling... which freestyle basically is; glorified baton twirling.
Im going to have to disagree with you on that one. Aerials? "baton twirling" believe it or not is a very small aspect of freestyle nunchaku. Freestyle nunchaku has an infinite amount of operations that can be performed so the "rabbit hole" goes deeper than just "glorified baton twirling :craze
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the definition of freestyle according to the dictionary:
a performance or routine featuring relatively free, unrestricted movement or intended to demonstrate an individuals special skills or style,
so I'm pretty sure that means that it doesn't really matter if you practice combat or just ("Baton twirl").
freestyle is limitless it's about showing other people what's possible in our fast universe and not to determine who or what's better
when one compares these kind of discusions to the fast size of the universe around us, just try and realize how puny these kind of points are.
rather try and grasp how deep the rabbit hole goes and try and learn new things of it
besides since the dawn of bullets most weapons are rendered kinda useless we don't fight a war swinging swords anymore do we :?
any art you practice being it martial art music or anything else is done for selfdevelopment of the mind and body
with these (i hope wise words :ninja:) i rest my case :)
keep on chucking for whatever reason you deem fit
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My point is, if you can't fight without Chucks, you can't fight with them. Swinging Chux is awesome, just don't think because you are swinging Chux you can do anything other than swing them unless you know how to fight. Bruce Lee said, "when I started Martial Arts, a punch was a punch and a kick was a kick. After I got deeper into it, I learned that a punch was no longer just a punch and a kick was no longer just a kick. Now that I know the Martial Arts, a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick." I take that statement as, when you start learning something, you think you have a good understanding for it, until you learn you don't, then you relearn and it becomes to you just as it was when you started, Natural. Matt has a great ability to swing his chux, self taught, Incredible. He knows what he knows and he is confident that it surpasses anything he could anywhere else. If he believes that, then it is so. Not everyone is as fortunate to have the vision Matt Chez does with his Chucks. If you know how to fight, then you are a combat chucker if you do the homework. If not, call it what you like. With my comment no insult is intended. 20 times a week some a hole on youtube calls me a baton twirler. It shows that they really don't understand what they are seeing, or their ego clouds their ability to look past their own nose. Just give something new or different, THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
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First of all, there was never any disrespect or "style bashing" intended in any of my posts, and I never claimed to be a master of nunchaku, let alone anything at all(except maybe pissing people off whether I try to or not). I just happen to see a lot of similarities between baton twirling and freestyle nunchaku. When I point out this fact, I do not mean to demean or disrespect either the art of freestyle nunchaku or baton twirling. it is an observation. Nothing more, nothing less. Somebody mentioned aerials earlier. As far as I understand(and I never claimed to have any great, vast, or deep understanding of nunchaku, freestyle or combat, I'm just calling it as I see it on my own terms and throwing in my two cents), aerials are tricks during which you throw the nunchaku in the air and catch them again a some point. If that is incorrect, then I'm sorry for any offense that may result from stating it, but I see baton twirlers throw their batons in the air and catch them as well. obviously there's more you can do with two sticks attached by rope or chain than you can do with just a stick in terms of tricks due to the flexibility and dynamics of the chain/rope, and again, this is not intended to demean either art, but I personally see a lot of similarities. That's all. For the record, I think they both look cool and take a great deal of talent that I do not possess.
No, Matt. I will not post a video because I can not do any "tricks" other than a wrist roll. I haven't even tried because I'm not interested. Even if I could do every single trick ever invented, I wouldn't make a youtube video because I don't care enough to show off what I can do. I have a few pairs of nunchaku, and I swing them around for exercise and fun while roughly following a self defense instructional video made by Nishuichi(sp?).
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You've previously posted about "baton twirling":
"I think some people view feestyle nunchaku as a just slightly less girly/homosexual version of baton twirling, and the others feel you're disrespecting/misusing nunchaku because they're weapons. I'm sort of leaning a bit toward the latter, but the difference is I don't really care if it's "disrespectful" or whatever."
I just happen to see a lot of similarities between baton twirling and freestyle nunchaku.
But of course I caught hell for stating any similarity between this and baton twirling... which freestyle basically is; glorified baton twirling.
In your last posts it's implied you're leaning quite heavily towards the former, it comes across as confused, unless you're deliberately posting to this effect now to cause the inevitable resulting conflicts.
I can not do any "tricks" other than a wrist roll. I haven't even tried because I'm not interested.. I have a few pairs of nunchaku, and I swing them around for exercise and fun while roughly following a self defense instructional video..
Then why join a forum on freestyle? Find another based on the combat application/self-defense aspect?
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No, what I meant by "I don't care if it's disrespectful or not," is that I don't care if freestyle nunchaku is viewed as disrespectful to the martial arts community, not that I don't care if calling the art homosexual disrespects those who do it. I mean, I can kinda see where the martial artists would be coming from, using the weapon as a toy, but I don't think less of those who do that.
No, I'm not deliberately trying to cause conflict. Maybe I just suck at communicating effectively, as this sort of confusion occurs quite often. Anyway, I don't see what's insulting about noting that freestyle is similar to baton twirling. I realize calling it glorified baton twirling is a rather crude way of describing it, but I don't see that it's entirely inaccurate(I know I can't possibly be the only one who sees any similarity whatsoever), and again, I meant no disrespect by it. If I wanted to simply be insulting, I can think of a lot of other, much more nasty ways to do that. That's not what what I'm here for. Plus, what's wrong with baton twirling? I'm not interested in doing it myself either, but it's still pretty cool looking to me, and I think it takes a lot of talent, just like freestyle. And as for either being girly or homosexual, as I said before, that's not how I personally feel about it, but at least with baton twirling, I think most males would probably perceive it as girly because mostly girls do it(as far as I can tell. maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't personally seen a lot of guys twirling actual batons). It's like how mostly girls like purple and pink, so they're considered girly colors(or if a guy says he likes those colors, he's usually called silly). There's nothing wrong with any of these things, whether they're girly or not, and even if they are, there's nothing wrong with a guy enjoying them either. And liking these things certainly has nothing to do with sexual orientation whatsoever. The quote of mine posted was in response to this quote posted below, and my response was an explanation of why I feel freestyle nunchaku isn't generally accepted as an art(and I'm guessing it isn't because of the quote below).
I just wish that someday all people can understand what we do and accept freechaku as an art.
As for why I'm here on a freestyle forum, well I don't hate freestyle or anything, but I'm just not incredibly interested in learning it for myself. The videos can be fun to watch(some get kinda repetitive though) too. Mainly though, this was the only forum(or one of very few) I could find that was specifically for nunchaku and not just general martial arts/self defense, so I figured it would be a good place to gather information, specifically about which pair I should get for myself and if certain ones I was interested in purchasing were any good or not. And even though it's mostly for freestyle, there is some discussion about what I am interested in learning taking place on this forum.
Now if after reading this, people are still pissed off at me and think I'm being a hater or whatever, well then I guess I'm sorry that either I can't communicate effectively to where I get my point across without sounding negative, or that you simply don't believe me. Whichever is the case, I apologize, and you won't have to worry about me posting anymore because there's no point in me being here if everything I say is just gonna piss people off.
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Regardless of which activity we are doing, the body remains the true Mystery and Master of movement. In my opinion, the only thing that changes from baton twirling, Tennis, Samaurai Sword, Sai, Juggling, Golf and any number of activities is the INTENT. No magical change in the body or the Dynamics, just what you are trying to accomplish.
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If you don't understand the basic fundamentals of the Weapon called Nunchaku, then you are just a juggler. Don't call them Nunchucks, call them juggling stix (with a long chain) or Aerobix Stix, cause, they're not Nunchaku. My Instructor, (when he was sane) told me no one will EVER respect you as a Master with the "Nunchaku" if you're not a, or don't understand the Martial Artist. If you are happy with Juggling then great, don't say you are working a weapon and try to benefit from the Mystique of the "NUNCHAKU". With that said here are some combat applications:
# 1 http://youtu.be/kMMCki2V3ZU
# 2 http://youtu.be/dVkbdKTNzdc
# 3 http://youtu.be/BjGfyZd7JWU
PS if you are holding 10" chains at the neck, your reach is shorter or the same as Prochux.
不管是nunckucks还是nunchucku，都是你们自己所谓主观的翻译，别来这里和我玩文字游戏，没有意义，你懂吗？难道你还要和我扯kong fu和martial arts的区分？你有木有蛋疼？
本来就是中国发源的武器，你有神马资格在这里和我瞎扯淡它的叫法？
你给我的那些连接都是TMD垃圾，那也能叫实战？那些我早就看过，不用你再来给我发一遍。别拿着你们的pro chuck装逼，脑残不会掌握长链棍的诀窍就所谓“发明â€个prochuck，你觉得很光荣吗？武术的本质是什么，难道是投机取巧？武术和哲学的关系你理解吗，老美？
如果你连这段话的意思都不能理解，那请你闭上NMGB的嘴，别来给我文酸装大尾巴狼，第二语言都没有的你有神马资格和我叫嚣？用你们牛逼的Google translator吧，SB！啊哈哈
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Not quite agreeing with the points raised here..
not getting respect from the "martial arts" community, even if you do create a viable and effective form of fighting with nunchaku. DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!
No kind of self respecting martial artist should thinks he has to seek the acceptance of his peers. if it works for you, DO IT!
i now use chucks that are just over "14 with a 3" chain. and weigh about 600g, Are they nunchucks or juggling sticks?
im confused, i didn't realize that there was a STANDARD MODEL for chucks :doh
and i can swing my chucks, holding from the bottom, so fast that you cant even see it. i can do 3 full powered strikes per second.
im quite sure that they have a lot more reach than pros, ( i have some and have experimented)
none of this was done through any traditional or formalized training. and i don't regret any of it.
but hey, this is my opinion, feel free to pick it apart.
600g chucks is for practice, great for building up the muscles in the arms.
For the actual combat I will use 250g wood one with 13cm chain.
The reason why i use this heavy one is to practice to control as in Chinese "soft weapon"; the harder you practice, the better you will understand the weapon when you need it, that's the point i try to make, not use this as actual weapon. Just like sports training or army training, the training is always harder than the actual game so that you can fully prepare.
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I'd have to agree with matt everything is interchangeable here i mean i can fire a gun or swing a baseball bat as well doesn't say i can be effective with it
only when you practice and get a understanding of how the object works and how it reacts to the environment you can become more effective with it
in my personal opinion it's kinda useless to debate wether it's a good weapon or not since these day's when you get into a fight Ur risking being bombed by some
b-52's or something like that :ninja:
in any case discussing the differences is useless rather discus what you have learned and how it can help other people improve their own level in the arts they like to practice
Great point! :thumb:
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What is so cool about freestyle is that any style is accepted. Combat moves are included in freestyle, they are just a part of the whole. If you truly want to be great handling the chucks, you probably should learn the whole. Just because "baton twirling" might be considered girly (apologies to the ladies) by some, it just may mean they don't understand what freestyle is all about. The "fancy stuff" teaches coordination, builds muscles and speed, but most importantly it teaches to think and react outside of the box, something every successful fighter knows. It is all part of the whole. Some may think that jumping rope is girly but to properly train for boxing, it is an important part. When all is said and done, the more you handle your chucks, the better you will be with them, or any weapon. Plus, it just adds some FUN to the training and keeps you from getting stale! Combat is one important part of freestyle, but why limit yourself to only one part????
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Keeper.......that is a cool vid of your tree strikes!
Maggus86........I agree that holding the end of the chucks gives more power and increases range, however it will slightly decrease speed and control. There is always a trade-off. Neither is right or wrong, it depends on your fighting abilities and also your opponent. Sometimes you don't need the extra reach and speed would serve you better, say against a shorter fighter. Not so true with a taller fighter maybe. Your style needs to be able to adjust to the circumstances. Just sayin what has worked for me.
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What is so cool about freestyle is that any style is accepted. Combat moves are included in freestyle, they are just a part of the whole. If you truly want to be great handling the chucks, you probably should learn the whole. Just because "baton twirling" might be considered girly (apologies to the ladies) by some, it just may mean they don't understand what freestyle is all about. The "fancy stuff" teaches coordination, builds muscles and speed, but most importantly it teaches to think and react outside of the box, something every successful fighter knows. It is all part of the whole. Some may think that jumping rope is girly but to properly train for boxing, it is an important part. When all is said and done, the more you handle your chucks, the better you will be with them, or any weapon. Plus, it just adds some FUN to the training and keeps you from getting stale! Combat is one important part of freestyle, but why limit yourself to only one part????
Thanks for your common. There is a misunderstanding here. I do both styles, not only combat, but I focus on combat more. I agree with your points that about freestyle helping build up muscles, as well as the holding position problem.
Again, this clip is just about how to control the chucks in combat situation
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Keeper.......sorry for the misunderstanding, my comments were geared towards magus86. I wanted to show him that there are benefits to Freestyle.Like you, I also do both freestyle and combat but your strikes are better!