You vote, but how and why?

[Kuyper]

You get 8 votes. Try to be as honest as you can.

Also leave a message if you will on some other things you consider when casting your vote!

~Voted... I also consider how repetitive the film I'm judging is. Too much of one thing or the same combo linked together the same way over and over loses points in my book.

[dodo23762]

~Voted... I also consider how repetitive the film I'm judging is. Too much of one thing or the same combo linked together the same way over and over loses points in my book.

I agree

[Seventh_He4ven]

I don't discriminate with doubles or single, much like editing and music don't affect my choice. If I can see it all it is a good start. Another factor that I'd like to highlight (for me at least) is length of videos; a lot of the shorter videos caught my attention more in the world cup (not to say that I only voted the shorter videos, I was fair and objective) but in the longer videos there does tend to be repeats of combos.

[puati711]

I think "wide variety of moves cover all the upper ( passes, aerials, digit moves, cuz I have never seen a vid that just has one of those ( not talking about tut or lab vid) So I just choose wide variety for passes, aerials etc
And I do think the popularity does some effects as well, for certain someone who has uploaded a monster vid before, we might expect him/her this time, and imho, we already give him credit right before we watch the new vid. But this is just for special cases tho, the case that he/she proved his/her skills before.
For me, I have a thing for speed and double, editing skills, so that would go before the rest. Besides that, I always look for something newer, more dynamic than others vid, because I learn from watching you guys.
K+, Kuyper, this is quite thorough  You gave me a chance to think thoroughly about how and why I vote 
 P.SThe reason I feel editing skills are important, is because we upload a video, that means we are the director and the watchers are audience of our short movies. So I think before we can prove our freestyling skills, we need to do something to our short movies that people would wanna watch it. 

[Kuyper]

Thanks for the feedback.  

I put passes, aerials and digit moves in separate categories on purpose. Some people specialize in different styles like, just an example but let's say yeti for passes, mattchez for aerials and spinstorm for digitmoves. Just curious as to if people are bias towards any certain style. At the moment it seems to be even.

As for the "wide variety of moves" option. This option in depth means a wide variety of different moves. Special moves. Moves that are not so common. Like the yeti roll, or RCtrues headspin, or even psionics crazy foot tricks. But a wide variety of these signature moves. Let's get some more votes and opinions. This is a topic that will allow us to recognize the criteria on that which we are judged.

 

[jmvicuna]

I vote for the impression that the video makes in me.

Sometimes a video can be excellent with just 2 moves, but mixed together, in different planes and levels, and that can create an awesome impression.

Other times, a video can be of a guy standing in the same position all the time, but with a great flow and variety of moves, and it looks awesome.

Speed: my vote doesn´t goes just for speed, there can be awesome quality with low speed. Is not too relevant

Passes: Is relevant, because it shows the creative of the person that is performing, and the smooth between them shows the level of the freestyler.

Aerials: Shows big control, and also can be mixed with very creative tricks. It gives a great bonus.

Digit moves   : They are done by people who like them, but not because a video has digit moves they must get my vote

Wide variety of different moves: is very important, because it show creative, and also it show the control that the freestyler has over his mind to make them in a short time. It show that the user can think more steps ahead, to cast them.

Technical: (this refers of not having mistakes? )  If it is not having mistakes, then it is not too relevant, because is also cool to see how a person reacts after a mistake, and can keep with the flow, even there was something tat wasn´t on his mind.

Camera angle or edit skills: It gives a boost, but not all. But, if I see to identical videos, one with a good camera angle, and the other not, I will vote for the first. For example, some people shoot their videos from a top view, and the effect is really cool.

Moving feet, stance switches: It gives the freestyler a more range of action, and allows him to create different things. It gives a technical boost, because the performer will have a better freestyle, because of the possibilities that he can reach, but of course the vote depends of the other video too.

Standing in one spot: you can do great freestyle, but as I said just before, with feet movement, you can reach more than standing in one point.

The music: If the freestyle is connected with the music, it helps a lot, because you see the freestyle and music as one thing, and not one far from the other. I would never vote for someone just because he put rap or metal or jazz, etc.

Doubles: Depends on the performance, but not because of doubles I will vote for him

Fire: same as above

Glow: same as above

Breaking footage: (this means lots of short clips in the video?) if so, it doesn´t affect too much, but if there are like just 2 seconds clips, I won´t like it too much... I like to see the flow of the freestyler

How attractive the person: more than the attractiveness of the person, I prefer the attractiveness of the whole video, if the whole video catch my attention, I vote for that, but is the mix of everything, not just the person.

The landscape: is not necessary a boost, but is helps to create a whole effect

The popularity of the person: not relevant for me. If it were just popularity, the new talents wont be able to shine. A great example of why this is not relevant, is 64warrior winning the World Cup 2008 (he was a newcomer) and Levi vs Yetibutt in Derek´s tournament. If we focus on popularity, the level will fall. We must focus on quality.


This are my thoughts on this.... but the most important is the effect that the video makes in me. If I want to pick my chucks just after I saw the video, I consider it a great video, that created a great impression on me, and it surely get my vote.

[Kuyper]

Awesome feedback JM. 

As for 'technical' it means showing skill or specialized knowledge in science or in this case applied arts.

As for 'breaking' it means showing a demonstration of power, speed or accuracy with nunchuck to destroy targets like boards , bricks etc etc.

That was very interesting to read. Thank you to all who provide feedback.

[Steph [TDO]]

I will try to give a feedback like Jm did, but sorry for my poor english 

Speed:
Speed is far to be the most important. Each advenced chucker has already a good speed and we can't compare easily this point on a video.

Passes, Aerials, Digit moves :
It isn't because a guy do a lot of passes or another do a lot of aerials or digits moves that i will vote for him. Each person has his own style; some style have a lot of aerials, others have a lot of passes. The moves isn't the most important, but it's how he is good in his style.

Wide variety of different moves:
I think it's important! repetitive moves during 3min is boring. to catch the attention of a person, you need to do differents combos, show him what you can do.

Technical:
showing skill ? i'm not sure to understand, but it's why we do a video; to show our skill.

Camera angle or edit skills:
I think it's important too during the world cup unlike to the chuck off, but it's far to be the most important. I think you need to find a balance between editing and showing your nunchaku skill; between non-edited and over-edited. Coll camera angles can give some really cool effect too and i think it's important to change view instead of having only one point of view.

Moving feet, stance switches:
For my part, it's really important! i like to see someone who isn't concentrated only on the nunchaku but also on his body moves. That's why i'm a big fan of chinese style; precision of the body movements. Of course, i don't vote only on this point.

Standing in one spot:
I f i see someone who have a cool footwork and someone who is standing in one spot, i will vote for the one who have a cool footwork. If one day, you need to do a demonstration; you need to move on the scene, use the space.

The music:
I like to see an editing which is based on the music; like a movie trailer. But music only is a choice; my vote don't depends of this.

Doubles :
For my part, i think it's a "little" important but i will don't vote for a guy just because he did doubles if another did a better job with singles only.

Fire, Glow :
It depends on the performance. but it's far to be the most important to me.

Breaking footage:
It means "adding strikes" in your freestyle ? i like to see some strikes well executed in a freestyle, but it's not very important for my part.
If it means "accuracy"; it's important to me.

How attractive the person:
doesn't matter. (if i have understand what it means :/)

The landscape:
Like camera angles, it's not the most important, but it's cool

The popularity of the person:
useless. it's unfair to vote for a person you like or who is popular on this forum... don't vote for the person, vote for his video.

[Saverok]

I've voted for:
-speed- there are some not too fast chuckers that I like, but my favorites are faster ones
-Wide variety of different moves- I don't like when somebody do this same trick most of the vid
-Moving feet, stance switches- it's a bit boring when all vid somebody stands in this same place and don't use his body for chucking

[SpinStorm]

Uniqueness & technical stuff.. Thats all  Dont care about speed or how many matt chez tricks you can do   I want to see new stuff that YOU came up with

Hates: repetition & predictability

[SpinStorm]

Good thread btw, on all the voting threads lots of people say they voted but not why

[sebricci]

Great question Kuyper !

The area I look most are Technique (and variety), speed, flow, footwork and doubles.
Location can be a +.

Popularity of a member is of no importance to me but I think it is to some people. I've seen examples of that.


Here is how I do when I hesitate. All marks are over 5. This was for Group N voting

Setsuna :

Technique  * * * *
Flow           * * * *
Speed         * * * *
Editing         * * * *
Doubles       * * * *
Originality     * * *
OMG Moves  * *
Footwork     * * * * *

Total       30/40

Seven_He4ven :

Technique * * *
Flow         * * *
Speed      * * *
Editing     * *
Doubles    *
Originality  * * * *
OMG Moves  * * * *
Footwork     * * *
Total       23/40

Notherchucker:

Technique   * * * * *
Flow            * * * *
Speed         * * *
Editing         * * * *
Doubles       * * *
Originality     * * * *
OMG Moves  * *
Footwork     * *
Total       27/40

Hino :

Technique * * * * *
Flow         * * * * *
Speed      * * * *
Editing     * * *
Doubles    *
Originality  * * * *
OMG Moves  * * *
Footwork     * * * *
Total       29/40

I invite all of you to discuss my system in the thread I created about it :
http://www.freestyleforum.net/index.php?topic=11281.0

[psionics]

if you are a long timer, you can also consider the vote for the person's improveness since their way back. Also, if the video is presentable no matter if not much complicated. Or if you tried the freestyle(e.g. Yeti) is very difficult and you see em done in a mid-ending combo, thats a good points too.

[Arturas0705]

I think, that the type of nunchacku is also very important (fire, glove, wooden, foam...). But I didn't found this choise

[Gomartgo]

I voted...and good topic...nice to see what others will say ...