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June 07, 2010, 03:27:07 PM
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Hi Ichibichan :) He did make that kata. You say you´re desperately lookinf for a video to the first Kobudo nunchaku. But this depend of the style you want to practice. I suggest the channel of mbrenters in YouTube. On his channel there are some basic katas from Nunchaku-do. If you like this style, you can visit the page of World Nunchaku Association There you can get all the techniques, combos and katas from white belt to black belt (till the third dan, I think). Good practice. Karma for you.



If I will practice today, then I will try this kata :)
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June 07, 2010, 03:36:24 PM
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Tiokiko

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I think Levi said it best...but keep practicing my friend...just put more heart into what your doing...it's going to look even more fantastic...keep it up and don't get angry with anyone for telling you what you need to ear....we just want you to get better...

keep it up bud... :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

It´s true. All of us only try to help to sombody with anything he needs. I talk about kata, because I practice them, and I know the katas need a lot  of repeat and repeat and repeat for the perfection. All our words are for helping  :respect:

June 07, 2010, 03:40:01 PM
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If I will practice today, then I will try this kata :)

Why not, my friend? :) It´s very nice. One of my favourite katas of nunchaku is a basic kata of Ultimate Nunchaku, the style I practice. They are basic, but nice and a strong start on the way.

June 07, 2010, 03:41:41 PM
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nice kata  :thumb:

simple but beautiful  :clap  :clap

Yes, perhaps too much short, but beautiful  :2thumbsup:

June 07, 2010, 03:52:14 PM
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I will try to record my first try, and then we could see as I progress. Anyone want to train this kata with me?  8-)
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June 07, 2010, 05:05:48 PM
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ichibichan

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Thanks a lot for all the help guys
and the karma lol  :eeeh

I'll learn this kata and, when I finally get my video cam working I'll upload a vid, although if I get paid first I'll buy a new one   :bigdance:

In any case I'll be sure to practice this kata and the others :chuck: :chuck:,

thanks again guys

June 10, 2010, 09:10:12 AM
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September 09, 2010, 04:01:51 PM
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well thanks everyone for your support and help.

March 11, 2013, 05:46:08 AM
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 I like the way you do figure 8's without weaving your torso, that shows solid foundation, very good! respect.

March 11, 2013, 06:58:18 PM
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Did you make up this kata, if not what style is it??

I'm desperately looking for a video or walkthrough for the first kobudo nunchaku kata for class

If anyone could help I'd be very grateful, thanks again guys  :respect: :respect:

There are no true Koryu nunchaku kata. They don't exist. All known "traditional" kata are all 20th century creations that began with Shinken Taira. Many nunchaku kata done by traditionalists are actually even post WWII kata.
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March 12, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
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There are no true Koryu nunchaku kata. They don't exist. All known "traditional" kata are all 20th century creations that began with Shinken Taira. Many nunchaku kata done by traditionalists are actually even post WWII kata.

That's what I've been told about it, but this is the first time I actually read more accurate info.
It's interesting the way nunchaku was left outside of any traditional kata.

Any suggested reading about this subject?
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March 12, 2013, 05:32:52 AM
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That's what I've been told about it, but this is the first time I actually read more accurate info.
It's interesting the way nunchaku was left outside of any traditional kata.

Any suggested reading about this subject?

Probably the best book ever written on the subject.

Unante - Secret Of Karate, by John Sells

http://www.wmhawley.com/products/books/unante.php

Btw, if you find the $55.00 price to be high, don't try Amazon. They are selling used copies for over $330.00

The nunchaku just wasn't a significant enough weapon when compared to the Bo, Sai and Tonfa. This is also why the "traditional" nunchaku kata are known by names such as Basic Nunchaku Kata or Kata #1 rather than bearing the name of a pre 20th century master like Sakugawa, Chatan Yara or Matsu Higa.

One needs to remember that back in Okinawa they were more interested in the utility of the weapon and had no interest in how cool it looked spinning around. The fact that you could strike somebody with a sai or staff without real concern of a bounce back made something like the nunchaku a less appealing weapon.

Had the nunchaku actually existed in China during the formative years of the next generation boxing styles (18-19th centuries) weapon use was advanced and sophisticated enough that forms (kuen) would have been devised for the weapon and it would have become part of the flexible weapon arsenal of those boxing styles along with three sectional staffs and whip chains. The only problem is it didn't exist in the Chinese arsenal of weapons. They had a two sectional staff but the usage and design was completely different.

Some people insist the nunchaku (or a Chinese version of the weapon) existed in the arsenal of some lesser known boxing systems and even suggest that is how it was introduced to Okinawa via Fukien transmission but it simply isn't true. Ironically both the sai and tonfa are of Chinese origin and stories of Okinawan "tool based" origins are made up folklore or were attempts at "cover stories" to explain the item to authorities. Although in the case of the sai this would have been rather futile because it was recognized nearly everywhere as a weapon.

Stories of the nunchaku coming from an Okinawan tool to thresh grain and rice seem to have been fabricated by Shinken Taira when he introduced Kobudo weapon systems to Japan in the 1920s. The whole "peasants turning farm implements into weapons of defense when swords were banned" is mostly folklore and likely exaggerated to make the system interesting enough to be embraced by the modern practitioners of this new martial art introduced to Japan during the 20s. Many Karate instructors (such as Funakoshi) omitted traditional weapons from their new karate programs because they felt they were outdated and of no interest.

Now obviously in some cases the "tools into weapons" story was factual when it came to weapons like the sickle (kama) and boat oar (eku). With things like the staff (bo) it is probably a little bit of both. And of course the nunchaku has it's origins in a horse bridle. For use as a practical weapon it was slightly modified. It also seems to have been developed as a weapon very late in the 19th century which would also explain why there are no extant (koryu) kata.

Horse bridle examples generally date to the mid to late 1800s which suggest the modified weapon we know as the nunchaku could be no older than those examples.
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