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February 04, 2008, 11:41:26 AM
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There's a little more subtlety to it than that, but it's the basic idea.  I don't personally recommend mixing your fuels 'cause I like how pure paraffin handles just fine.

EDIT: Watch this. http://www.homeofpoi.com/lessons_all/teach/1_2_2

February 04, 2008, 02:53:19 PM
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Don't mix your fuels to start.

Go with 100% paraffiin.

Later after you've got a feel for what your doing, 6 months down the road or something, then you can start to experiment.

Experimenting off the start is just a reciepe for getting hurt.

Please also read all the safety articles out there concerning having a spotter, clothes to wear etc!

February 06, 2008, 06:56:11 PM
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thanks for the post....gives me a lot of options besides my usual fuel combo

February 12, 2008, 10:40:19 PM
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Nice thread! :bigdance:
Thanks for putting this up. :respect:
Now to start experimenting. :happy-firey:
« Last Edit: February 12, 2008, 10:54:12 PM by igor »

February 19, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
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i just burnt my chucks for first time... the first time i was realy scared to burn myself or whatever... anyway wasnt it so bad so for second burn i use both chucks... anyway the chucks didnt hold the fire for long... like 1 minute... i think thats because when i put it out from the paraffin then i let it drop... the second time i tried to do NOT drop anything... and it did hold the fire for long time... but it wasnt safety! cause i felt how the burning drops frying from the chucks to myself (face etc)...

so any idea how to keep the flame for longer time than a minute?

anyway im use to be REALY fast with chucks... much more faster than almost every1 (i dont want to be bigheaded but its true)
so may the speed can stop the flame?

February 19, 2008, 06:31:35 PM
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First off..

You need to spin off the chucks in an area away from the burn area to get the excess fuel off.

That's the worst way to do it... other ways include using spin cans. (I should make a vid on how to make spin cans and use them for chucks).

Or you can use a plastic glove and squeeze the chucks to get the excess fuel off.

Paraffin is a very heavy liquid. You need to let the chucks soak for a LONG time before the first burn.. I'm talking hours. After that, you still need to soak for a good 15 minutes I'd say before spinning. Alot of it depends on how tight the wrap of the kevlar is.

The tighter you wrap the kevlar the longer it takes to soak... but the longer the kevlar lasts as it doesn't have as much give and wear and tear when they do hit the ground.


I believe you should get 3 minutes out of a burn with paraffin. I've done only minimal tests on the time difference but from what I have tested, paraffin burns for about 200% longer. I actually use twice as much kevlar as normal due to using naptha and my chucks are quite a bit heavier then normal.

It is entirely dependent on how much kevlar you used, how tight the wrap and how long you let it soak.

Trying soaking them for longer first.

Don't forget the spinning off!! That is so bloody well important with chucks as doing bounces provides a huge chance for fuel to come off the chucks and land on your clothes!

Also try large spinning motions for the first 10-20 seconds to let any excess fuel burn off before you get to bouncing and going crazy. Think of it as build up time for the drama ;)

February 19, 2008, 08:53:38 PM
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First off..

You need to spin off the chucks in an area away from the burn area to get the excess fuel off.

That's the worst way to do it... other ways include using spin cans. (I should make a vid on how to make spin cans and use them for chucks).

Or you can use a plastic glove and squeeze the chucks to get the excess fuel off.

Paraffin is a very heavy liquid. You need to let the chucks soak for a LONG time before the first burn.. I'm talking hours. After that, you still need to soak for a good 15 minutes I'd say before spinning. Alot of it depends on how tight the wrap of the kevlar is.

The tighter you wrap the kevlar the longer it takes to soak... but the longer the kevlar lasts as it doesn't have as much give and wear and tear when they do hit the ground.


I believe you should get 3 minutes out of a burn with paraffin. I've done only minimal tests on the time difference but from what I have tested, paraffin burns for about 200% longer. I actually use twice as much kevlar as normal due to using naptha and my chucks are quite a bit heavier then normal.

It is entirely dependent on how much kevlar you used, how tight the wrap and how long you let it soak.

Trying soaking them for longer first.

Don't forget the spinning off!! That is so bloody well important with chucks as doing bounces provides a huge chance for fuel to come off the chucks and land on your clothes!

Also try large spinning motions for the first 10-20 seconds to let any excess fuel burn off before you get to bouncing and going crazy. Think of it as build up time for the drama ;)

Good advice. Generally for future burns, 15minutes is a bit of an overkill really. You only need to soak until the bubbles stop and then no more as the wick isn't actually absorbing anything anyway.

March 08, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
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March 11, 2008, 09:06:45 PM
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Does the thickness of the kevlar is important??  What thickness do you suggest me?
I never try to firechuck, but it looks fun...  :-o :lol:
So if I have it, I must let the kevlar soak in the fuel for some times.  After I get the excess fuel off by squeezing the kevlar with plastic gloves. I spin them to make sure to let go the excess of fuel.  And now I can burn it??? (how do I put this on fire? I must make a little fire? )  I will use parafin.   

I don't make my fire nunchaku yet. I don't have the material. I must go to buy them. I will try to make them next week, but if I can only get kevlar on internet, I won't be able to make them.  :-(

March 11, 2008, 09:24:42 PM
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Use a lighter to light them. May I suggest perhaps buying your chucks (http://www.thestunthouse.com/firetoys/home.asp) instead of making them? I suggest thick kevlar it's width is something like 3mm.

March 11, 2008, 10:47:02 PM
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Use a lighter to light them. May I suggest perhaps buying your chucks (http://www.thestunthouse.com/firetoys/home.asp) instead of making them? I suggest thick kevlar it's width is something like 3mm.

Thanks for your help!  :thumb:

I would like to buy them... but I'm not supposed to.  :-P  :-(

March 21, 2008, 11:57:27 PM
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Hey Rell, I used your information to make the Wiki article on fuels. Hope you don't mind.

March 22, 2008, 11:11:40 PM
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Hey Rell, I used your information to make the Wiki article on fuels. Hope you don't mind.

Give me some credit please. :)

November 20, 2009, 12:55:03 AM
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hey rel thanks for the work youve put into this thread, ijust wanted to clarify its possible and safe to mix lamp oil and colemans camp fuel. ive used both and see the dramatic difference in flame intensity and duration. i would love something in the middle.

November 20, 2009, 02:52:41 PM
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hey rel thanks for the work youve put into this thread, ijust wanted to clarify its possible and safe to mix lamp oil and colemans camp fuel. ive used both and see the dramatic difference in flame intensity and duration. i would love something in the middle.
Hey,
As they are both oil based fuels that will be fine.
Mixing oil with oil is fine, alcohol with alcohol is fine; but what you can't do is mix oil with alcohol. They will not mix, resulting in all kinds of crazy stuff happening to your wick.

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