IMO

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

IMO although not directly it seems to me there definitely a benefit from the flashy spinning tricks.  The nueral connection to the patterns give a huge advantage in feigning & adapting to the situation quicker.  Thoughts?

[psionics]

I think I can relate this to a music and Tekken:

For the music, the intro/stanza are the flashy tricks, while the chorus are the strikes.

For Tekken game, imagine Asuka Kasama(fancy moves) VS Paul Pheonix(opening breaker), both players are equally powerful(has its own weakness as well)

So I guess, It is still all depends on the user/player on how he/she wield his weapon in a fighting situation.

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

Is this forum limited to young people posting vids of themselves doing flashy tricks?  

[psionics]

"freestyle" forum can be anything. do you have anything more about nunchaku? because we seek anything about nunchaku. there are very few resources about nunchaku in the web, we're seeking almost everything related to nunchaku. I think this is the best place for it to record your research and we will help you.

There are some old people here who are already a sensei level. There's also some group who uses nunchaku for full contact sport. Some guys here also are nunchaku historians and collectors.

[Kriztov]

Is this forum limited to young people posting vids of themselves doing flashy tricks?

Well.. it is called 'freestyle' forum - so the focus is mainly on the freestyle aspect. 

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

The flashy spins are useless unless your 7th grade.

[psionics]

The flashy spins are useless unless your 7th grade.

Ok, formality box broken.. I had enough of these toxic people.

I think you have no idea about the legalities and laws about these kind of weapon for each countries, as a public forum, we don't encourage people for these kind of actions and barbarism, nunchaku for fighting is a delusional idea. Combat Nunchaku Application has been a heated topic again and again way way back and at the end, everyone here concludes and agreed to our stand. We are all here for the art and science.

Nunchaku itself is useless to fight against with modern weapons and martial arts. Martial Artist or even Boxers, if you got solid hit by their punch, with the amount of force given, the opponent will technically knocks down easily - but that is if your opponent is not moving(Which is not in most cases). A moving target is a different story. No matter how powerful your punches or your nunchaku strike is or even how good you are with nunchaku techniques, like in MMAs, its a different story if your target is moving and/or a martial artist or long/short range. One can easily just get very close to you and grab the nunchaku chord out of your possession, nunchaku is never equivalent to eskrima. Lastly, the reason why we just stay in exploring on its physics, is to record the science of all its possible directions. If you think this forum is for 7th grader like you think we are, who does these useless "flashy" moves that doesn't satisfy your idea about combat nunchaku moves in real life application, so therefore... why are you here then? did your school teaches you the meaning of "freestyle"?

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

Quote from Yahoo >

Nunchaku is the MOST effective blunt force trauma type weapon. when folded up it is easily concealed in a coat pocket, in the small of your back, etc. yet when fully extended during a strike it is the same length as a full sized baton. the striking end of the nunchaku travels much faster than the striking end of a baton because it has to travel a larger distance in the same amount of time during a swing, much like a whip, making the nunchaku a much more devastating weapon. national geographics fight science did analyze the effectiveness of the nunchaku but their test is are VERY misguided and VERY misleading. they tested the weapon on a target that was made of rubber and bolted down. this target that was used to test the weapon doesnt move and doesnt give. the rubber target DEFLECTS all the energy causing the end of the nunchaku to rebound on the user. flesh and bone, on the other hand, ABSORBS the energy. if you smash an opponent over the head with nunchaku, it WILL NOT REBOUND. instead, the opponents flesh and bone WILL GIVE, will break, massive trauma!! it is not designed to strike wood, metal, rubber, concrete, etc. it is meant to be swung through your opponent smashing bone and causing massive trauma. it is not a dueling weapon. it is primarily an offensive weapon. the trained user is always changing positions and incorporates a series of feints and constant movement to beguile the opponent and find an opening to strike. in the hands of a trained user the nunchaku is the most devastating blunt force trauma type weapon.

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

Ok, formality box broken.. I had enough of these toxic people.

I think you have no idea about the legalities and laws about these kind of weapon for each countries, as a public forum, we don't encourage people for these kind of actions and barbarism, nunchaku for fighting is a delusional idea. Combat Nunchaku Application has been a heated topic again and again way way back and at the end, everyone here concludes and agreed to our stand. We are all here for the art and science.

Nunchaku itself is useless to fight against with modern weapons and martial arts. Martial Artist or even Boxers, if you got solid hit by their punch, with the amount of force given, the opponent will technically knocks down easily - but that is if your opponent is not moving(Which is not in most cases). A moving target is a different story. No matter how powerful your punches or your nunchaku strike is or even how good you are with nunchaku techniques, like in MMAs, its a different story if your target is moving and/or a martial artist or long/short range. One can easily just get very close to you and grab the nunchaku chord out of your possession, nunchaku is never equivalent to eskrima. Lastly, the reason why we just stay in exploring on its physics, is to record the science of all its possible directions. If you think this forum is for 7th grader like you think we are, who does these useless "flashy" moves that doesn't satisfy your idea about combat nunchaku moves in real life application, so therefore... why are you here then? did your school teaches you the meaning of "freestyle"?

You couldn't be more wrong.  Even a moderately skilled nunchaku artist is deadly.  All it takes is (1) good skull strike & it's lights out.  If the assailant isn't dropped he will art the least be incapacitated where a joint or neck lock it's easily accomplished.  Most buy a pair of nunchaku & immediately think all they have to do whack the guy & it's over...their wrong.  It takes months & months of daily practice to even become somewhat skilled much less deadly.  That takes years.

[psionics]

Show us your progress about deadly strikes. Or teach us how you are right about this. I hope you can provide us a basis about it, not theory. Where did you get this info about the skills that may take years? Is there any nunchucks striking tutorials like this in the web? who is this person or master? How did you concluded this?

[SteyrAUG]

You couldn't be more wrong.  Even a moderately skilled nunchaku artist is deadly.  All it takes is (1) good skull strike & it's lights out.  If the assailant isn't dropped he will art the least be incapacitated where a joint or neck lock it's easily accomplished.  Most buy a pair of nunchaku & immediately think all they have to do whack the guy & it's over...their wrong.  It takes months & months of daily practice to even become somewhat skilled much less deadly.  That takes years.

As a person involved with the Shinken Taira / Motokatsu Inoue lineage of Kobujutsu, I think it very much depends upon what you qualify as "artist." Obviously you've discovered this forum is primarily devoted to freestyle which is not a martial art but a performance art. I have sometimes expressed my disdain for "spinners" and "propeller art" but it's their forum so it's probably bad form to criticize.

That said, I've seen plenty of people who consider themselves martial arts "experts" who can't even hold the weapon properly. If they tried to fight with it they'd probably do as much damage to themselves as to their opponent. In the almost 40 years I've spent studying weapon arts, I've met fewer and fewer people who possess even basic weapon skills despite the black belt they might be wearing.

If a martial artist isn't doing contact training against a heavy bag and other targets that rebound your weapon and force you to redirect or otherwise control it then you don't even know what a white belt should know. Sadly what we used to call "basics" is now something like a Jedi level skill.

By the way, using your "one good strike" analogy, you could say the same for a glass Coke bottle and it will take a lot less time and effort to master the weapon.

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

I agree.  But when you factor nunchaku's weight, concealability & versatility nunchaku stand alone.  I know of no other weapon that can strike, punch & choke.  Not to mention they can be manufactured out of a wide range of materials (broom handles, water pipe, chair legs, wooden dowels etc.) quickly & easily.  I recently read of a prisoner who broke out of prison using a pair of nunchaku he made out of a mop handle.  Very few weapons are just as relevant today as when they were developed.  This excellent forum needs a combat section.  Howard is a great guy that I'm proud to call a friend.

[Nitemare-Nunchuk]

Anyone who doubts the SD capabilities of nunchaku obviously has never been as little as lightly popped in the head with a nunchaku before.  These things are truly a deadly weapon.  The fact a pr of nunchaku can be clandestinely manufactured from numerous common objects speaks to just how incredible nunchaku really are.

[Razimbom]

The nueral connection to the patterns give a huge advantage in feigning & adapting to the situation quicker