Discussion about new categories for CO2011

[jayson fr13]

- Светящиеся и огненные будут в одной категории?
- В скольких категориях можно принимать участие?
- Как определяется уровень профессионализма для категорий на первом этапе голосования?

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- Glow and fire will be in the same category?
- In how many categories can take part?
- How is the level of freestylers for the categories in the first stage of voting?

[zeros]

i thing that we can make a blind category 
just like this :

do you thing ?

[Renato]

I think it's a good question to glow and fire are going to be together like last year. I think it would be a good idea to divide it. Fire has advantage over glow, because it has more people who like and the risk is bigger, is more difficult to use.

I didnt like very much the idea of blindfolded category, sorry : P

[sebricci]

I didnt like very much the idea of blindfolded category, sorry : P

On the contrary, I'm all for it That's a new challenge and I like that 

[Steph [TDO]]

I agree that we should seperate glow and fire; it's two different things to me.
But the problem is that there isn't a lot of glow and fire entries each year, so it's maybe a good idea to keep them together rather than have two category with just some entries.

I'm not a big fan of the blindfolden category too.
Maybe you should do a poll to see how many people are interrested by participating in this category.

What about a "form/show category" where you can use what you want synchronized with a song ?
Something like WNA/FINCA freestyle competitions.
But i don't know if a lot of people will want to participate in it.

[aeronauticalNINJA]

maybe we could have the different categories of fire and glow and regular chucks/weapons/poi.. but the fire category must be ALL fire freestlye  and the same for regular chucks (nothing but regular chucks/weapons/poi) and glow (nothing but glow freestyle) ect.

so in other words, if I wanted to do fire, I can but it must be nothing but fire chucks. Then I'll be competing against other people that want to do just fire chucks, instead of maybe 30 seconds of fire from one person, and 10 seconds of fire chucks from another person..

I don't know.... I always kinda thought it was a little (I guess "unfair" is the best word I can think of at the moment) that someone would get more votes just because they put 10 seconds of fire or glow in their video and the rest is just reg. chucks.

I hope I'm making since..     just thought I'd throw that out there to see what other people think.

Also, I'm not a big fan of the blindfold category..  to me that's like adding categories for people that chucks with shoes and people that chucks with out shoes,  or with or without shirts,  or a category for people that chuck outside with a beautiful background and a cat. for people that chuck indoors..

I just think it's over doing it, and it would be hard to regulate, not that we are a bunch of cheaters, but it could be easy to "cheat" this cat.

[Renato]

Yes... I agree Steph. Dont have too much fire and glow entries, but last year had two categories, Advanced and experienced. So could be changed for one category for each type of chux =)

Syncronized is a good idea, the problem like you said is because we dont know how many people will be interested parties. I think also that this category someday exists the vast majority of people will use forms that used in competitions in real life. So it will not add too much because we'll see a lot of videos we've seen before = p

A ! I have a question. In singles or doubles. It is allowed to change chucks during the video? If i am with singles, but at no time did i hold two nunchaku at the same time, for example, i leave one on the floor and then i caught another. This is allowed? Or cant change ? I ask the same thing for doubles. =)

[Flowpulse]

1) I think fire should be its own category.  Just throw glow with regular chucking since the techniques are pretty much the same (until the amount of glow chuckers grow where it can be its own category.  It will almost always lose to fire.)  Fire spinning chucks requires a different way to spin since you can't hold low and the weight is distributed differently.  

2) I think it would be awesome to have a multi-prop competition too.  All props included from poi, staff to spinning chairs and katana swords.  Spin anything and everything.  We have quite a few people that could enter that one. Anyone that posts in "other spinning vids".

3) A great suggestion but I'm not feeling the blindfolded.  I think that would go wonderfully with the regular competition instead of isolated as a competition on its own... Same with 1 handed chucking.  They all feel like it is part of the core "Chuck off" skill set where we are showcasing our skills anyways.

[SpinStorm]

I'm in. Havent trained in months but this will give me something to focus on to get me back in the swing of things 

What about a "form/show category" where you can use what you want synchronized with a song ?

Although I like the idea this will cause lots of copyright issues with youtube 

As for the multi-prop idea, I like it, but I dont necessarily think its for the Chuck Off.. I think that would be better run as an independant mini competition. For the Chuck Off I personally dont care about anything other than mad chuck skills    (plus editing would probably help with the multiprop concept)

[Arturas0705]

My opinion:
*at first I think we need to know how many members will be in glow & fire category. It will be great to seperate them.
*I think, that blindfolded category would rock  I think we need this category, because CO is about skills.

[bilistickpitbull]

I think it's a good question to glow and fire are going to be together like last year. I think it would be a good idea to divide it. Fire has advantage over glow, because it has more people who like and the risk is bigger, is more difficult to use.

I didnt like very much the idea of blindfolded category, sorry : P

I think the same fire and glow should be separeteded much greater skill is needed with fire by far make a mistake with glow it's a bump at most with fire you have to be pro

[Renato]

Yes  

Well, the problem in Blindfolded is because you retire the pontential of freestyle. The freestyle will have a lower quality.  Less tecniques too use like aerials and moves that requires more you look at the nunchaku. Of course, if you are a   you can do 2 min making a lot of aerials and high risk tecniques without drops. But, using basic moves i dont thing the difficult is much harder than to do than looking for the nunchaku. For me is almost the same thing. Some moves like spins, rolls and passes most parts of freestylers here make all training, so its easy to do without looking. Is just like typing in keyboard. Fire for exemple is a lot more harder than blind. Have a lot more risk. Category for glow can be really cool =) I think will have a good number of entries in it, not as fire, sure, but a good number.

[dradonforces]

1) I think fire should be its own category.  Just throw glow with regular chucking since the techniques are pretty much the same (until the amount of glow chuckers grow where it can be its own category.  It will almost always lose to fire.)  Fire spinning chucks requires a different way to spin since you can't hold low and the weight is distributed differently. 

I think thats not a good idea cause if its in the normal category its just gonna look more impresive sinces its glowing, witch won`t be fair for some of us that don`t have glow chucks and only have normal ones. I don`t think it should be in the normal categoy, that would be just using chucks made out of wood, pvc, metal etc. 

[Arturas0705]

I think were must be these categories:
*Single
*Doubles
*Glow
*Fire
*Blind

*Director
*Comedy
*Combat

How long will be video? I think it must be ~5 minutes to be more chalanging Or it can have levels.

[jmvicuna]

I split the posts about the categories, so we can talk better here 


About new categories, we can add a rule like this:

- A new category can be formed, only if it has 15 video or more

With this we will encourage that just the popular categories are formed, and not any category, and also that there will be people in it.

The bad part of this is that if you put time and effort to make your video, and there aren't so much people that made a video for the category, the work will be in vain, and you wont be able to participate in that category (because it wont exist). But this can be a challenge too.... you will need to make your category popular so people will make videos in it, and then the category will be alive!

What do you think?!?